Thank you Alex for alerting us to the video. Very exciting, and let's hope commercialisation proceeds quickly. Gee, it's been a long road. Shame they wasted 3 years on the electromagnetic pumps which ultimately proved unsuccessful.
I'm not sure about which section of the video that you are referring to specifically, but I believe that he has in the past said that Hydrino can be seen escaping the SunCell as a white fog.
Ah, I understand now. Dr. Mills actually addresses this right at the 9 min 50 second mark. He says that they are keeping the guy in the video cool with mist.
That said, there was another video a while back where you could see very localized white vapor escaping the top of the cylinder, and Dr. Mills said that was Hydrino gas escaping.
I believe that Dr. Mills has publicly referenced a scene from a brief video or picture where you can see diffuse white vapor coming directly off the SunCell's surface following particularly intense bursts of light output. I don't recall the exact context though.
It would be useful to know more details of the latest information from BLP. I’m getting blowback from someone claiming the latest photos with a guy a few feet away from the SunCell don’t make sense claiming if that much power were being emitted at 5000k the guy would be burned? What is the surface area of the black body emitter? Is it 2D or 3D? Have you worked out the physics yourself?
Those are very obviously low power runs. I'm fairly certain that at commercial power levels the light would fully saturate the camera of any phone. Your friend is right that one would not be able to stand anywhere near the SunCell when its running at max output.
As for the blackbody emitter, my guess is that its a ball of plasma 1.5 to 2 inches in diameter centered on the point of intersection between the molten tin electrodes. I ran the math, a 1.5 inch blackbody emitter has a surface area of 0.00456 m^2, so at 5800K it would emit about 300 kW. Its a 3D object, but apparently Mills is quoting it as m^2 because only the surface is emitting light. You can scale the total emission up or down depending on your estimate of the actual size of the plasma ball.
Thanks. I later did an analysis and came to the same conclusions, you could easily stand 10 ft away from a 100kW source with sunglasses and the actual 5000k surface is more like a golf ball even though the plasma fills a jar with area around 0.1 square meters. Even a 250kW source at 10 ft would be tolerable for a few minutes at less than 2 suns. The problem was confusing statements about 64 MW/m^2 and 0.1 m^2 area leading one to falsely believe about 6MW of power was being emitted which it isn’t.
Yeah, his figure of 64 MW per m^2 is correct for a blackbody at 5800K, but he could have perhaps been more clear that the surface area of the blackbody plasma inside the SunCell is much less than a m^2.
I hope this is the great news we have all been waiting for. Timing is a bit interesting so close to
shareholders meeting. Seems every year we get something to raise spirits. I also question everything we don't see in the provided pictures and video. How many supporting apparatuses
are not being shown but are required for the Suncell's operation? Why not a demonstration for us at the meeting? When will this happen?
Those are great questions. We don't have clear answers from Dr. Mills, but I can make some educated guesses:
1) The initial version of the SunCell is now targeting 100 kW of net electrical output, not 250 kW. As for the ability to adjust that figure on demand, I suspect that there will be some minimum output threshold that can't be breached. However, you could probably integrate some sort of heat rejection component that would dump excess electricity as heat. All that said, I think the first few years worth of SunCell production will go to end users that require 24/7 operation, so the ability to quickly ramp electrical output up and down won't be necessary for these users. Longer term, I expect the SunCell to be refined and improved dramatically on all dimensions, and the ability to quickly ramp output up and down to match load demand will probably be achieved.
2) The amount of heat emitted depends on the degree to which light recycling works as advertised. My guess is that the 100 kW electrical output SunCell will also produce between 25 and 75 kW of heat that must be disposed of. Fortunately, a standard car/truck radiator can easily reject more heat than that. I don't think cooling is going to be a problem.
You are most welcome. I think that BLP will face far more demand than they can meet for at least the first 5 years of SunCell manufacturing. They will probably sell to the highest bidder during this time period. I would guess that residential SunCells are about a decade out.
Slowest revolution ever. No new updates?
Thank you Alex for alerting us to the video. Very exciting, and let's hope commercialisation proceeds quickly. Gee, it's been a long road. Shame they wasted 3 years on the electromagnetic pumps which ultimately proved unsuccessful.
What was that fog in the short video Dr.Mills showed? Was that Hydrino gas or something else?
I'm not sure about which section of the video that you are referring to specifically, but I believe that he has in the past said that Hydrino can be seen escaping the SunCell as a white fog.
It’s around 9 minutes 50 seconds where Dr. Mills shows a short video of the SunCell.
Ah, I understand now. Dr. Mills actually addresses this right at the 9 min 50 second mark. He says that they are keeping the guy in the video cool with mist.
That said, there was another video a while back where you could see very localized white vapor escaping the top of the cylinder, and Dr. Mills said that was Hydrino gas escaping.
I don’t think one can see Hydrino gas with the naked eye?
I believe that Dr. Mills has publicly referenced a scene from a brief video or picture where you can see diffuse white vapor coming directly off the SunCell's surface following particularly intense bursts of light output. I don't recall the exact context though.
Maybe steam from air heating by Hydrino or similar mechanism. Hydrino is not visible, it is dark matter per Mills.
Hi,
It would be useful to know more details of the latest information from BLP. I’m getting blowback from someone claiming the latest photos with a guy a few feet away from the SunCell don’t make sense claiming if that much power were being emitted at 5000k the guy would be burned? What is the surface area of the black body emitter? Is it 2D or 3D? Have you worked out the physics yourself?
Thanks and Best Regards,
Rob
Those are very obviously low power runs. I'm fairly certain that at commercial power levels the light would fully saturate the camera of any phone. Your friend is right that one would not be able to stand anywhere near the SunCell when its running at max output.
As for the blackbody emitter, my guess is that its a ball of plasma 1.5 to 2 inches in diameter centered on the point of intersection between the molten tin electrodes. I ran the math, a 1.5 inch blackbody emitter has a surface area of 0.00456 m^2, so at 5800K it would emit about 300 kW. Its a 3D object, but apparently Mills is quoting it as m^2 because only the surface is emitting light. You can scale the total emission up or down depending on your estimate of the actual size of the plasma ball.
Thanks. I later did an analysis and came to the same conclusions, you could easily stand 10 ft away from a 100kW source with sunglasses and the actual 5000k surface is more like a golf ball even though the plasma fills a jar with area around 0.1 square meters. Even a 250kW source at 10 ft would be tolerable for a few minutes at less than 2 suns. The problem was confusing statements about 64 MW/m^2 and 0.1 m^2 area leading one to falsely believe about 6MW of power was being emitted which it isn’t.
Yeah, his figure of 64 MW per m^2 is correct for a blackbody at 5800K, but he could have perhaps been more clear that the surface area of the blackbody plasma inside the SunCell is much less than a m^2.
I hope this is the great news we have all been waiting for. Timing is a bit interesting so close to
shareholders meeting. Seems every year we get something to raise spirits. I also question everything we don't see in the provided pictures and video. How many supporting apparatuses
are not being shown but are required for the Suncell's operation? Why not a demonstration for us at the meeting? When will this happen?
I don't know when the public demos will start, but it sure sounds like they could be imminent.
He has publicly referenced Jabil and Sanmina in the past, but there is no substantive information on the degree to which he has engaged with them.
Those are great questions. We don't have clear answers from Dr. Mills, but I can make some educated guesses:
1) The initial version of the SunCell is now targeting 100 kW of net electrical output, not 250 kW. As for the ability to adjust that figure on demand, I suspect that there will be some minimum output threshold that can't be breached. However, you could probably integrate some sort of heat rejection component that would dump excess electricity as heat. All that said, I think the first few years worth of SunCell production will go to end users that require 24/7 operation, so the ability to quickly ramp electrical output up and down won't be necessary for these users. Longer term, I expect the SunCell to be refined and improved dramatically on all dimensions, and the ability to quickly ramp output up and down to match load demand will probably be achieved.
2) The amount of heat emitted depends on the degree to which light recycling works as advertised. My guess is that the 100 kW electrical output SunCell will also produce between 25 and 75 kW of heat that must be disposed of. Fortunately, a standard car/truck radiator can easily reject more heat than that. I don't think cooling is going to be a problem.
You are most welcome. I think that BLP will face far more demand than they can meet for at least the first 5 years of SunCell manufacturing. They will probably sell to the highest bidder during this time period. I would guess that residential SunCells are about a decade out.